Saturn retrogrades 2023-2025

 https://www.glam.com/1226025/the-zodiac-element-that-saturn-retrograde-2023-will-affect-the-most/

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/saturn-retrograde-astrology-calendar-2023

my venus/saturn is at end of 7 degrees

Saturn Retrograde
Jun 17, 202307°12’	Nov 4, 202300°30’	139d

my sun/chiron is at 18 degrees

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/saturn-retrograde-astrology-calendar-2024

Saturn Retrograde
Jun 29, 202419°25’	Nov 15, 202412°41’	138d

my mercury is at 29 degrees

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/saturn-retrograde-astrology-calendar-2025

Saturn Retrograde
Jul 13, 202501°56’	Nov 28, 202525°09’	137d

So I see here three years of Saturn with each year having a retrograde about over my planets based at beginning, middle, end of Pisces. So no easy ride here with hardest planet transit. I am already feeling excellent effects in my meditation freak out. I hope this can all go similarly. Essentially my opinion is that if one deals with transits on subconscious level then practical changes are unneccesary. Like the predictions say life will get horrid at every level as all relationships deteriorate, you live under the bridge, unemployed and start cursing God( for starters). Then it gets really hard. OTOH if deep subconscious changes occur then suffering on an external level will be unneccesary.